Terminal with virtual keyboard support?

Discussion:

Cornelius Hald

2011-05-15 11:59:27 UTC

Hi,

is there a terminal in one of the repos that works with MeeGo 1.2 tablet
and supports the virtual keyboard? It's a bit annoying to be so
dependent on a USB keyboard or SSH.

Thanks!
Conny

Rakesh Cherian

2011-05-16 08:19:50 UTC

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http://build.meego.com/package/show?package=meegotouch-inputmethodkeyboard&project=MeeGo%3A1.2%3Aoss%3ATesting

Hi
Do you have meegotouch-inputmethodkeyboard installed ? It is available in
meego trunk repository and in oss:testing
http://build.meego.com/package/show?package=meegotouch-inputmethodkeyboard&project=Trunk
- Rakesh

Post by Cornelius Hald
Hi,
is there a terminal in one of the repos that works with MeeGo 1.2 tablet
and supports the virtual keyboard? It's a bit annoying to be so
dependent on a USB keyboard or SSH.
Thanks!
Conny
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Cornelius Hald

2011-05-16 08:44:42 UTC

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Yes, the virtual keyboard is installed. It's also working fine in MTF
and QML apps. But in plain Xterm it does not get activated.

So is there a trick to activate it? Or is there an MTF/QML/Qt based
terminal?

Thanks!
Conny

Post by Rakesh Cherian
http://build.meego.com/package/show?package=meegotouch-inputmethodkeyboard&project=MeeGo%3A1.2%3Aoss%3ATesting
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Rakesh Cherian
Hi
Do you have meegotouch-inputmethodkeyboard installed ? It is
available in meego trunk repository and in oss:testing
http://build.meego.com/package/show?package=meegotouch-inputmethodkeyboard&project=Trunk
- Rakesh
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Cornelius Hald
Hi,
is there a terminal in one of the repos that works
with MeeGo 1.2 tablet
and supports the virtual keyboard? It's a bit annoying
to be so
dependent on a USB keyboard or SSH.
Thanks!
Conny
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Luis Araujo

2011-05-16 19:51:11 UTC

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You might want to track this bug:

https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16963

Cheers,

Post by Cornelius Hald
Yes, the virtual keyboard is installed. It's also working fine in MTF
and QML apps. But in plain Xterm it does not get activated.
So is there a trick to activate it? Or is there an MTF/QML/Qt based
terminal?
Thanks!
Conny

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Cornelius Hald

2011-05-17 08:47:34 UTC

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Thanks! I've added myself to the CC list. But to be honest, the process
of open-sourcing app code always took ages during Maemo5-time. So I
don't have too high hopes.

Shouldn't plain Qt apps also be supported by the virtual keyboard? If
yes, maybe we could use some existing Qt terminal? Maybe from KDE?

Cheers,
Conny

Post by Luis Araujo
https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16963
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j***@public.gmane.org

2011-05-18 06:19:56 UTC

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Hi,

Thanks! I've added myself to the CC list. But to be honest, the process of
open-sourcing app code always took ages during Maemo5-time. So I don't
have too high hopes.

Things are not always the same.. If you see any problems in getting code open sourced, let me and Makoto know.

Shouldn't plain Qt apps also be supported by the virtual keyboard? If yes,
maybe we could use some existing Qt terminal? Maybe from KDE?

Worth investigating?

Jukka

Thiago Macieira

2011-05-18 09:03:06 UTC

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Post by Cornelius Hald
If anyone knows a pure-Qt terminal, please let me know. Also if someone
knows of any other projects trying to get a proper terminal on MeeGo -
please ping me. In the mean time I hope Nokia will release their
terminal. That would be great!

I think there was an old Qtopia application that did this, as evidenced by:
http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qtopia4.3/consoleapplicationlauncher.html
http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qtextended4.4/consoleapplicationlauncher.html

You could try and find its sources.

You could also get Konsole's inner terminal code and just make a new shell for
it.

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Cornelius Hald

2011-05-19 06:02:56 UTC

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Post by Thiago Macieira

http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qtopia4.3/consoleapplicationlauncher.html
http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qtextended4.4/consoleapplicationlauncher.html
You could try and find its sources.
You could also get Konsole's inner terminal code and just make a new shell for
it.

Thanks for the hints. I've looked at the Qtopia code[1]. The terminal
got some Qtopia dependencies, but it looks like it's not too much.

I'll be at MeeGoConf in a couple of days. Let's see if there is any news
regarding open-sourcing the Nokia terminal. If not, I might have a
closer look at Konsole or Qtopias terminal.

Cheers,
Conny

[1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/qpe/files/QPE/

Ville M. Vainio

2011-05-19 06:50:42 UTC

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Post by Cornelius Hald
Thanks for the hints. I've looked at the Qtopia code[1]. The terminal
got some Qtopia dependencies, but it looks like it's not too much.
I'll be at MeeGoConf in a couple of days. Let's see if there is any news
regarding open-sourcing the Nokia terminal. If not, I might have a
closer look at Konsole or Qtopias terminal.

My understanding is that Harmattan terminal will be open sourced and
added to meego. Not sure about the timeline.

Thiago Macieira

2011-05-19 08:47:53 UTC

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Post by Ville M. Vainio

My understanding is that Harmattan terminal will be open sourced and
added to meego. Not sure about the timeline.

As someone who has used that terminal, I'm not sure it's much better than the
approach Cornelius is trying now.

For one thing, this thread's subject is "terminal with virtual keyboard
support" and the one I have just tested doesn't have that. It's pretty useless
right now if you all you have is a touchscreen.

Ville M. Vainio

2011-05-19 10:27:28 UTC

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Post by Thiago Macieira
As someone who has used that terminal, I'm not sure it's much better than the
approach Cornelius is trying now.
For one thing, this thread's subject is "terminal with virtual keyboard
support" and the one I have just tested doesn't have that. It's pretty useless
right now if you all you have is a touchscreen.

The one I have on my device does have virtual keyboard, in addition to
a set of control keys on the toolbar. The app name is just "Terminal"
(i.e. not qonsole, or whatever).

Luis Araujo

2011-05-19 11:40:28 UTC

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Post by Ville M. Vainio

My understanding is that Harmattan terminal will be open sourced and
added to meego. Not sure about the timeline.

Yeah, this is the current approach and it is work in progress, I guess
we just need to wait for a while.

Regards,

Quim Gil

2011-05-19 15:13:51 UTC

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Post by Ville M. Vainio
My understanding is that Harmattan terminal will be open sourced and
added to meego. Not sure about the timeline.

Currently under discussion. The MeeGo N900 DE also needs it. I can't
promise any deadline but we are currently working on this.

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Quim

Foster, Margie

2011-05-19 21:50:08 UTC

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How many languages does this keyboard support?

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Post by Ville M. Vainio
My understanding is that Harmattan terminal will be open sourced and
added to meego. Not sure about the timeline.

Currently under discussion. The MeeGo N900 DE also needs it. I can't
promise any deadline but we are currently working on this.
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Quim Gil

2011-05-19 22:06:39 UTC

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Post by Foster, Margie
How many languages does this keyboard support?

I believe the virtual keyboard is provided by the OS (Input Methods
Framework, part of Core OS), not by the terminal app itself. Then again
that specific keyboard appearing in the Terminal app does have some
specific tabs, as Ville explained. So maybe it has a specific plugin?

In any case the question you actually want to ask is what languages are
currently supported by the MeeGo Input Methods Framework for its Handset
virtual keyboards. I don't know the answer. Nokia will support
officially a number of languages for Harmattan, but this is beyond the
topic here.

Anyway, http://wiki.meego.com/Maliit has more information about the
MeeGo Input Methods Framework. I bet you will be at the MeeGo
Conference?
http://sf2011.meego.com/program/sessions/developing-custom-input-methods-meego is the session having the right people to ask.

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Quim

Post by Foster, Margie

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Post by Ville M. Vainio
My understanding is that Harmattan terminal will be open sourced and
added to meego. Not sure about the timeline.

j***@public.gmane.org

2011-06-08 08:27:12 UTC

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Post by Ville M. Vainio
My understanding is that Harmattan terminal will be open sourced and
added to meego. Not sure about the timeline.

Currently under discussion. The MeeGo N900 DE also needs it. I can't promise
any deadline but we are currently working on this.

This is now available, see https://gitorious.org/meego-terminal/meego-terminal.

It will appear on N900 DevEdition images soon. Apparently upstream didn't take it, because it has dependency to MTF.

Jukka

Cornelius Hald

2011-05-18 07:56:34 UTC

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Hi,

Post by j***@public.gmane.org
Hi,

Thanks! I've added myself to the CC list. But to be honest, the process of
open-sourcing app code always took ages during Maemo5-time. So I don't
have too high hopes.

Things are not always the same.. If you see any problems in getting
code open sourced, let me and Makoto know.

there is always hope - and I hope you're right :)

Post by j***@public.gmane.org

Shouldn't plain Qt apps also be supported by the virtual keyboard? If yes,
maybe we could use some existing Qt terminal? Maybe from KDE?

Worth investigating?

I've searched for Qt terminals, but the only one I could find was
Konsole. After looking at it I think it has too many KDE dependencies,
therefore I don't see it as good candidate to get quick results.

If anyone knows a pure-Qt terminal, please let me know. Also if someone
knows of any other projects trying to get a proper terminal on MeeGo -
please ping me. In the mean time I hope Nokia will release their
terminal. That would be great!

Cheers,
Conny